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I found that while my gratuitous amounts of front toe out helped me in a lot of the transitions, I was getting killed in harder turns. A given obviously
It's frustrating because I don't know what to fix. I'm at -2.7 degrees of camber while I know the faster STX twins are running around -4.0 degrees in front. Do I just need more camber? But then I know the heavier Focus RS isn't running that much camber. I'm maxed out currently, so I'd need aftermarket control arms to make it happen.
Is it the tires? I'm on RE71Rs (245/40/17 - can't go higher in STX).
Are my shocks over damped? They feel absolutely wonderful and outside pics of the car shows the car's not too stiff and it's still able to transfer weight well.
Is it my driving?
Quote from: lprmesia on June 13, 2017, 12:24:44 PMI found that while my gratuitous amounts of front toe out helped me in a lot of the transitions, I was getting killed in harder turns. A given obviously Common suspension tuning myth (that I used to believe). More toe out does not cause an increase in understeer in sweepers (to a point). It only causes an increase in the required steering wheel angle to maintain the same arc radius. That increase in steering wheel input only gives the illusion of understeer.Quote from: lprmesia on June 13, 2017, 12:24:44 PMIt's frustrating because I don't know what to fix. I'm at -2.7 degrees of camber while I know the faster STX twins are running around -4.0 degrees in front. Do I just need more camber? But then I know the heavier Focus RS isn't running that much camber. I'm maxed out currently, so I'd need aftermarket control arms to make it happen. Yes to more camber. Under 3 probably isn't enough especially on something as heavy as a WRX. Also be wary when comparing to other chassis. Camber curves, bumpsteer etc. are likely not the same.Quote from: lprmesia on June 13, 2017, 12:24:44 PMIs it the tires? I'm on RE71Rs (245/40/17 - can't go higher in STX). Probably not.Quote from: lprmesia on June 13, 2017, 12:24:44 PMAre my shocks over damped? They feel absolutely wonderful and outside pics of the car shows the car's not too stiff and it's still able to transfer weight well. An overdamped shock will usually make the car bounce and skitter because the tire (which is a pneumatic spring) has now become the softest thing in the suspension. And the tire is not damped. Remember shocks have no effect on how far the car rolls, they only effect the speed in which it gets to max roll. Looking at the roll angle from pictures outside the car probably isn't super revealing to shock effectiveness. In your car I would bias rebound to the rear and compression to the front.Quote from: lprmesia on June 13, 2017, 12:24:44 PMIs it my driving? Yes, probably. Sounds harsh I know but just keep reading. First year doing national events right? First time on concrete? You're probably under driving the fast parts and over driving the slow parts. Believe me, one of the best things you can do to get better in autox is to not get caught believing in your own myth. The best drivers I've raced against all had one thing in common: they always blamed themselves before the car. Even if there is a problem with the car your first question should always be, "Why wasn't I able to adapt?" or "What could I have done with my driving to make the car suck less?" This is important for several reasons but the biggest being that the car will almost NEVER be perfect and you will ALWAYS have to adapt at some level. The more you do these reflection exercises the stronger your arsenal will be at making quick adjustment decisions. Example....Problem: The car understeers on entry. Answer: Drag the brake into the turn.Don't confuse this with being results focused, however. Even the best drivers in the world can only do what the car will give them (See F1). You're goal is just to maximize what is available.
Quote from: lprmesia on June 13, 2017, 12:24:44 PMIs it my driving? Yes, probably. Sounds harsh I know but just keep reading. First year doing national events right? First time on concrete? You're probably under driving the fast parts and over driving the slow parts. Believe me, one of the best things you can do to get better in autox is to not get caught believing in your own myth. The best drivers I've raced against all had one thing in common: they always blamed themselves before the car. Even if there is a problem with the car your first question should always be, "Why wasn't I able to adapt?" or "What could I have done with my driving to make the car suck less?" This is important for several reasons but the biggest being that the car will almost NEVER be perfect and you will ALWAYS have to adapt at some level. The more you do these reflection exercises the stronger your arsenal will be at making quick adjustment decisions. Example....Problem: The car understeers on entry. Answer: Drag the brake into the turn.Don't confuse this with being results focused, however. Even the best drivers in the world can only do what the car will give them (See F1). You're goal is just to maximize what is available.