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gtfour77 · « **on:** November 18, 2011, 10:25:20 AM »

Some big changes for some classes...

Wish would have stayed with SM... $:-\$

http://home.comcast.net/~paxrtp/rtp2012.html

marka · « **Reply #1 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:15:56 AM »

Howdy,

Interesting. Both DS and ASP (the old BSP) got slightly harder compared to SS.

That seems like positive news. :-)

Mark

Habib88 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:26:28 AM »

Well this is akward. I had to look up what class I was in lol. I don't have to memorize a new number though so that's good

metalsaber · « **Reply #3 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:38:50 AM »

Oh yeah baby. SM dropped a whole .003. FTD 2012 here I come.

scca-racerx · « **Reply #4 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:46:45 AM »

SS and BSP are separated by .001 which means I have to raw time Frank for top pax (and probably FTD).
I better find some talent or skill or something - soon.

roundel · « **Reply #5 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:54:20 AM »

Quote from: marka on November 18, 2011, 11:15:56 AM

Howdy,

Interesting. Both DS and ASP (the old BSP) got slightly harder compared to SS.

That seems like positive news. :-)

Mark

I'm glad you said something. I had forgotten that BSP got shuffled.

marka · « **Reply #6 on:** November 18, 2011, 12:40:03 PM »

Howdy,

Quote from: scca-racerx on November 18, 2011, 11:46:45 AM

SS and BSP are separated by .001 which means I have to raw time Frank for top pax (and probably FTD).
I better find some talent or skill or something - soon.

Welcome to my life. :-)

But really, the Gaus-mobile is in ASP next season. Even still, the rule of thumb is that you need raw time Frank (and Kristi).

Mark

gmaloy · « **Reply #7 on:** November 18, 2011, 12:47:07 PM »

STS now faster than STX? $:-\$ Maybe on a high grip surface but I would not put money on it at beaverun...

marka · « **Reply #8 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:35:53 PM »

Howdy,

Quote from: gmaloy on November 18, 2011, 12:47:07 PM

STS now faster than STX? $:-\$ Maybe on a high grip surface but I would not put money on it at beaverun...

Shouldn't that be the other way around? STX cars are bigger/heavier/more powerful than STS. That should translate into working better in comparison as grip goes up.

And having said that... awd STX cars would probably do better as grip goes down, but I'm not sure awd STX cars have been setting the pax for a while in STX, have they?

Mark

gmaloy · « **Reply #9 on:** November 18, 2011, 01:57:58 PM »

Yeah I was gearing more towards the AWD stx cars as being faster at beaverun as they are what I traditionally think of in regards to STX... I guess the LSD civics and such are the new leaders in the class.

RandyP · « **Reply #10 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:37:42 PM »

Quote from: gmaloy on November 18, 2011, 01:57:58 PM

Yeah I was gearing more towards the AWD stx cars as being faster at beaverun as they are what I traditionally think of in regards to STX... I guess the LSD civics and such are the new leaders in the class.

Aren't civics excluded from STX now?

marka · « **Reply #11 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:59:59 PM »

Howdy,

Quote from: RandyP on November 18, 2011, 04:37:42 PM

Quote from: gmaloy on November 18, 2011, 01:57:58 PM
Yeah I was gearing more towards the AWD stx cars as being faster at beaverun as they are what I traditionally think of in regards to STX... I guess the LSD civics and such are the new leaders in the class.

Aren't civics excluded from STX now?

Yeah, pretty sure that's the case. Perhaps explains STX slowing down a bit on the pax too (if they did... I didn't really look to be honest).

Mark

RandyP · « **Reply #12 on:** November 18, 2011, 05:40:18 PM »

Quote from: marka on November 18, 2011, 12:40:03 PM

Howdy,

Quote from: scca-racerx on November 18, 2011, 11:46:45 AM
SS and BSP are separated by .001 which means I have to raw time Frank for top pax (and probably FTD).
I better find some talent or skill or something - soon.

Welcome to my life. :-)

But really, the Gaus-mobile is in ASP next season. Even still, the rule of thumb is that you need raw time Frank (and Kristi).

Mark

I'm running smaller tires next year because of the low grip surface at BR and the fact that it seems to want to rain or be cold for SS at Nationals. SS will be a very fun class next year with all the competition.

PDLTURBO · « **Reply #13 on:** November 19, 2011, 08:50:24 AM »

DSP( .851) now worse ESP( .848), was DSP (.844) ESP ( .846) good news for me...bad for Ethan

roundel · « **Reply #14 on:** November 19, 2011, 11:03:00 AM »

Quote from: PDLTURBO on November 19, 2011, 08:50:24 AM

DSP( .851) now worse ESP( .848), was DSP (.844) ESP ( .846) good news for me...bad for Ethan

WTF - when that was first posted DSP was 0.846 (up from 0.844 in 2011)... $:-\$

metalsaber · « **Reply #15 on:** November 19, 2011, 11:28:29 AM »

It's ok Ethan, we need to slow your times down.

roundel · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2011, 12:05:30 AM »

http://www.uhlmann.ca/2012pax_ntl.pdf

968crazy · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2011, 12:12:06 AM »

Randy you need a co driver to battle the cold weather not smaller tires

SteedaMustang · « **Reply #18 on:** November 21, 2011, 08:58:00 AM »

Quote from: marka on November 18, 2011, 12:40:03 PM

Howdy,

Quote from: scca-racerx on November 18, 2011, 11:46:45 AM
SS and BSP are separated by .001 which means I have to raw time Frank for top pax (and probably FTD).
I better find some talent or skill or something - soon.

Welcome to my life. :-)

But really, the Gaus-mobile is in ASP next season. Even still, the rule of thumb is that you need raw time Frank (and Kristi).

Mark

Did the whole BSP class get shuffled around or did the evo just get bumped? Anyone know about any other class changes for 2012?

marka · « **Reply #19 on:** November 21, 2011, 09:28:35 AM »

Howdy,

Quote from: SteedaMustang on November 21, 2011, 08:58:00 AM

Did the whole BSP class get shuffled around or did the evo just get bumped? Anyone know about any other class changes for 2012?

You'd have to look in fastrack for the real details, but IIRC ASP got renamed to SSP, all the fast BSP cars (Evo, STi, Solstice, maybe some others) moved to ASP, and the older 'used to be the car' stuff in BSP (S2000, M3, C4) stayed in BSP.

Mark

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