KeithO:
Thanks for the clarification. I DO know that as of January of this year, the SCCA started accepting NASA licenses for all regional races, but there are some regions that won't accept this - according to Butch.
Yes, Butch is involved and over the last 2 weeks, a group of 4 of us have been in contact including Butch. We are collectively trying to finalize our schedule but this morning, I pointed out that the VIR event was listed as a National and this could limit participation up here. Regardless, a tow that far is a hard sell for me anyway.
I have also suggested to the V8 guys that we piggyback onto other organizations such as NASA, EMRA and IMG and keep track of our points "amongst us girls" but I guess running anything other than an SCCA event would be frowned upon.
It's still a work in progress.
marka:
Howdy,
--- Quote from: KeithO on December 30, 2011, 11:20:05 AM ---Thanks for the clarification. I DO know that as of January of this year, the SCCA started accepting NASA licenses for all regional races, but there are some regions that won't accept this - according to Butch.
Yes, Butch is involved and over the last 2 weeks, a group of 4 of us have been in contact including Butch. We are collectively trying to finalize our schedule but this morning, I pointed out that the VIR event was listed as a National and this could limit participation up here. Regardless, a tow that far is a hard sell for me anyway.
I have also suggested to the V8 guys that we piggyback onto other organizations such as NASA, EMRA and IMG and keep track of our points "amongst us girls" but I guess running anything other than an SCCA event would be frowned upon.
It's still a work in progress.
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I think the preference for SCCA events is probably the exact same thing you're looking at now, but in reverse. My impression is that the existing v8 stock car folks down there are all SCCA licensed, so they know how SCCA events work and don't have a clue for NASA, EMRA, or whatever else.
Back to licensing... From what I understand, you don't ever actually run an SCCA event with your NASA license. Your NASA license will qualify you to receive an SCCA license (which you pay for). So once you go to an event at whatever region accepts the NASA license as qualification for an SCCA license, you'll now be SCCA licensed and can go run any SCCA event (given the regional / national distinction).
Mark
Eprod Racer:
per GCR:
2.8. Regional License
A. A driver who has completed all Novice Permit requirements, including the acknowledgment signature of the Chief Steward or Chairman SOM, may follow the directions in the Permit to apply for an upgrade to a Regional License. For the three consecutive weekends after he has submitted his Regional License application to the National Office for processing, he may use a photocopy of the Permit as a License to race. Or he may retain the original Novice Permit to use as a License until he completes 4 Regional Races (beyond the initial 2 for the Novice Permit requirement) to earn a National License.
2.9. National License A. A Regional License holder who completes requirements for a National License or who receives a waiver from his Divisional Licensing Chairman during the Regional portion of a Regional/ National weekend needs only the permission of the event Chief Steward to enter the National race. Drivers competing on a 15 Year-Old Novice Permit may not be upgraded to a National license under these circumstances.
B. A Canadian resident holding a current ASN Professional Grade C License or higher may apply for an SCCA National License if he is an Individual, Family, Spouse, or First Gear SCCA member in good standing and submits a copy of his current ASN License and ASN Medical Form, along with the License fee
www.scca.com/assets/2012GCR-updatedJanuary2.pdf
the above link will send you to the current GCR, at page 136 of the PDF it shows a table that give the requirement licenses
The organizations whose licenses are currently approved by SCCA for competition in Regional events are as follows: 1. BMW CCA Club Racing Full Competition 2. Confederation of Autosport Car Clubs (CACC) Competition 3. FIA Issued by any sanctioning body 4. Historic Sportscar Racing (HSR) HSR License 5. ICSCC Area Road Racing or International Road Racing licenses 6. IMSA 7. Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs (MCSCC) Full and Novice permit 8. Miller Motorsports Park Racing Association Full Competition License 9. NASA Full Competition 10. Ontario Region CASC Regional 11. Porsche Club of America Full Competition 12. SCCA Pro Racing 13. Sportscar Vintage Racing Association (SVRA) 14. Vintage Auto Racing Association Full Competition 15. Vintage Motorsports Council VMC 16. Waterford Hills Road Racing Club Full 17. West Canada Motorsport Association Amateur 18. Eastern Motor Racing Association (EMRA) Competition License. 19. Atlantic Region Motor Sports (ARMS) Regional Competition License
KeithO:
Thanks, AJ. Once the proposed V8 Stock Car schedule is "finalized", I plan on contacting you to discuss the possibilities further. We are on our 3rd iteration of a schedule and the good news is that the SCR BeaveRun event has appeared on all of them. BeaveRun seems to be central to the pool of available drivers and essentially everyone that we have contacted thus far have responded positively to this one. (In contrast, we dumped a Lime Rock event.)
I'll go on record saying this - I don't care about the sanction body running a given event. I care more about the drivers that show up. While I recogize that safety, etc. are important, I have found that the difference between a good event and not-so-good event comes down to the mindset of the drivers that compete. For the most part, all of the events I have run have had the same core group of drivers because there aren't all that many of us around...
I will admit that I have a preference for the format that the SCR had at BeaveRun this past year. I really like having dinner with the safety and corner workers. Listening to the corner workers talk about the race from their perspective is quite good for me. The only other time I've had that opportunity was the 2006 NASA Nationals and I liked it then too.
marka:
hwody,
--- Quote from: marka on December 30, 2011, 11:38:04 AM ---Back to licensing... From what I understand, you don't ever actually run an SCCA event with your NASA license. Your NASA license will qualify you to receive an SCCA license (which you pay for). So once you go to an event at whatever region accepts the NASA license as qualification for an SCCA license, you'll now be SCCA licensed and can go run any SCCA event (given the regional / national distinction).
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This is wrong, FWIW. I guess it has to be explicitly mentioned in the supps, but you can run an SCCA regional event with your NASA license directly. You have to be an SCCA member, but you don't need to hold an SCCA competition license.