KeithO:
This morning, I decided to start to try to figure out what events I would like to target for 2012. So, I went out to all of the sanctioning bodies that I have run, took their schedules, and put them into one place.
Since I am sure that I am not the only one that does this, I figured I would post it in case someone else might be interested. Note that I only included Regional SCCA events since my planned licencing and car won't allow me to run National events. However, many of the Regional weekends are also National weekends so there isn't much missing.
February 17-19, VIR, NASA MA
March 23-25, VIR NASA MA
April 13-15, Mid Ohio, NASA GL April 15-17, NJMP, NASA NE April 21-22, NHIS, SCCA NE (Rational) April 21-22, Summit Point, SCCA WDC (Regional) April 28-29, Summit Point, NASA MA
May 11-13, Putnam Park, NASA GL May 12-13, VIR, SCCA NCR (National), Proposed V8 Stock Car North Event May 19-20, BeaveRun/PIRC, EMRA May 26-27, Watkins Glen, SCCA GLEN (Regional) May 26-27, NHIS, SCCA NER (Double Regional) May 26-27, Grattan, SCCA WMR (Double Regional)
June 1-3, Mid Ohio, SCCA OVR (Restricted Regional) June 2-3, Grattan, NASA GL June 6, Lime Rock, NASA NE June 8-9, Lime Rock, SCCA NER (Regional) June 9-10, Gingerman, NASA MW June 9-10, Summit Point, SCCA WDC (Regional) June 16-17, Summit Point, NASA MA June 22-23, Lime Rock, SCCA MoHud, (Restricted Regional) June 23-24, Nelsons Ledges, SCCA FLR (Double Regional) June 29-30, NJMP, ?????, ARCA, Proposed V8 Stock Car North Event June 29-1, Mid Ohio, NASA GL June 30-1, Nelsons Ledges, SCCA NEO, (Restricted Regional)
July 2-3, Watkins Glen, EMRA July 14-15, NJMP, IMG July 14-15, Summit Point, SCCA WDC (Regional) July 15-17, Pocono, NASA NE July 20-22, VIR, NASA MA July 20-22, Watkins Glen, SCCA GLEN (Regional) July 27-29, Mid Ohio, SCCA CIN (Restricted, Double, Regional) July 28-29, NJMP, EMRA July 28-29, BeaveRun/PIRC, SCCA SCR (Restricted Regional), Proposed V8 Stock Car North Event
August 4-5, NHIS, SCCA NER, (Double Regional) August 5-7, NJMP, NASA NE August 10-12, Mid Ohio, NASA GL August 11-12, Grattan, SCCA WMR (Restricted, Double Regional) August 17-19, NJMP, SCCA JRB (Regional) August 18-19, Nelsons Ledges, SCCA NEO (Double Regional) August 18-19, Summit Point, NASA MA August 18-19, BeaveRun/PIRC, IMG August 31-2, Mid Ohio, SCCA OVR (Double Regional)
September 1-3, Summit Point, SCCA WDC (Double Regional), Proposed V8 Stock Car North Event September 3-4, Pocono, NASA NE September 6-9, Mid Ohio, NASA National Championship September 8-9, NJMP, EMRA September 8-9, NHIS, SCCA NER (Double Regional) September 14-16, Autobahn, NASA GL September 15-16, Watkins Glen, SCCA FLR (Double Regional), Proposed V8 Stock Car North Event September 29-30, Nelsons Ledges, SCCA MVR (Double Regional) September 29-30, Pocono, EMRA September 30-1, Watkins Glen, NASA NE
October 5-7, Road America, NASA GL October 6, Watkins Glen, SCCA GLEN, (Restricted Regional) October 6-7, Mid Ohio, SCCA OVR (Double Regional) October 12-14, VIR, NASA MA October 20-21, NJMP, SCCA JRB (Regional) October 20-21, Nelsons Ledges, SCCA NEO (Quad Regional) October 28-30, NJMP, NASA NE
November 3-4, Summit Point, NASA MA November 10-11, Summit Point, EMRA
Does anyone know the "Cliff Notes" version of the required licensing levels and classing for SCCA Regionals versus Restricted Regionals versus Rationals? Knowing this could help me thin the herd.
roundel:
And here comes sticky!
marka:
Howdy,
Good work! If you were really bored, you could add licensing schools as well. Two I know of are: 3/23-25: SCCA Double School @ Summit 5/11-5/13: SCCA Double School @ Gingerman
--- Quote from: KeithO on December 30, 2011, 09:35:01 AM ---Does anyone know the "Cliff Notes" version of the required licensing levels and classing for SCCA Regionals versus Restricted Regionals versus Rationals? Knowing this could help me thin the herd.
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Restricted regionals are named that because the set of classes offered is restricted. Without looking at the supps for the event I don't believe there's any way to know what classes are offered. I believe that any SCCA regional license is good for them, including Novice. I don't know what Rationals are really, but the impression I've gotten / guess I have is that its the full set of SCCA classes just like a Regional, but the weekend is also sanctioned as a national event, and drivers with each license type mix. Again, should be spelled out in the supps for the event.
Mark
(who thinks its long past time for the SCCA to stop having the license difference between national and regional licenses).
KeithO:
Classing: OK, so if I understand the classing, if it's not restricted then it is OK to assume that if your car has a class, the class is available for the event.
If it's restricted, then one needs to check the supps to see if a given class is included.
Licensing: OK, regional generically means that any SCCA license is valid and one doesn't need to have a license from that region to run that region's event, correct? National? I have no plans to try to get one of these. I am looking for minimal effort and cost to allow me to run SCCA events. If it turns out that I am severely limited with this lazy approach, I think there are plenty of other events that I can run without effort and cost using my NASA license.
One of the subplots that is going on is that I have agreed to help the V8 Stock Car Road Racing Series up north. These guys: http://www.v8stockcar.com/
They currently run out of the SCCA Southeast and run SCCA events, but get their own tweaked classes. These guys have a few more resources than the northern stock car guys that I know and we are trying to make something work here like they have in the south. However, when devising the proposed schedule, they haven't yet recognized that the available pool of drivers up here might have restrictions that could limit participation. I am trying to work through this and understand the various limitations that our schedule will create before contacting other drivers. I suppose I need to read the GCR when it comes to licensing and classing, but I have been a little lazy about it so far.
Thanks for the info.
marka:
Howdy,
--- Quote from: KeithO on December 30, 2011, 10:29:08 AM ---Licensing: OK, regional generically means that any SCCA license is valid and one doesn't need to have a license from that region to run that region's event, correct? National? I have no plans to try to get one of these. I am looking for minimal effort and cost to allow me to run SCCA events.
If it turns out that I am severely limited with this lazy approach, I think there are plenty of other events that I can run without effort and cost using my NASA license.
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My understanding of this is that you get a national license by attending a couple more (scca) events per year and paying a small fee to get the national endorsement. Both regional and national licenses are administered by the SCCA nationally, are good at any region's event, etc. All the national endorsement gets you is the ability to enter a national race rather than a regional one. Other than restricting which events you can attend, I don't believe there's any other difference you'd care about.
I also find this distinction dumb and confusing, but I fully expect that once you actual get a regional license and go to a few events, the goofiness will go away some. There's certainly some culture of "this is how its always worked" going on, but that's going to be the same with any group you're running with. That same culture exists in NASA, flat out days at BeaveRun, EMRA, or whatever. Just get the SCCA regional license and go to a couple events. This will work itself out.
--- Quote ---One of the subplots that is going on is that I have agreed to help the V8 Stock Car Road Racing Series up north. These guys: http://www.v8stockcar.com/
They currently run out of the SCCA Southeast and run SCCA events, but get their own tweaked classes. These guys have a few more resources than the northern stock car guys that I know and we are trying to make something work here like they have in the south. However, when devising the proposed schedule, they haven't yet recognized that the available pool of drivers up here might have restrictions that could limit participation. I am trying to work through this and understand the various limitations that our schedule will create before contacting other drivers. I suppose I need to read the GCR when it comes to licensing and classing, but I have been a little lazy about it so far.
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Is Butch Kummer involved with that? http://www.atlantascca.org/board-directors/51-board-of-directors/21-butch-kummer.html I know he's big with the GTA (?? I think that's it?) stuff around Atlanta. He's someone I'd talk to for sure probably either way, because he's in the South East, heavily involved with the SCCA, knows all about v8 stock cars, and is a super nice & helpful guy. Unlike me, he'll actually have some good definitive answers for what you need to do to run with the SCCA. :-)